[One Piece] Why Is the World Government Suddenly Targeting Vivi? The Nefertari Family Mystery Explodes
Blackbeard Pirates
Nefertari Vivi — 2018/06/22 Why now? If they wanted her erased, why wait this long?
Why would the World Government move now, after centuries of silence? If the Nefertari family was always “different,” what changed? And is Vivi really the target—or just the key?
The Nefertari Family Was Always an Outlier
138: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 Why was the Nefertari family overlooked all this time? They could’ve been erased way earlier, right? There is a reason to erase them.
140: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 They helped form the World Government as one of the 20 royal families, they just refused to live in Mariejois. That alone isn’t a reason to erase them.
141: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 They’re clearly trying to erase Vivi right now. So why not do it earlier? It’s not like the reason suddenly appeared lol.
142: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 If the Five Elders back it, failure isn’t an option. Someone is definitely getting erased. Even the Revolutionary Army can’t touch the Five Elders.
158: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 >>142 But they didn’t erase Doflamingo, so it’s not guaranteed.
145: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 To erase Vivi, they’d probably use a Warlord or an Admiral. That’s how the Five Elders roll.
If Erasure Was Possible, Why Not Earlier?
154: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 There’s no way Vivi or Shirahoshi just get assassinated casually. The victims would be Cobra and Neptune. Fujitora is dangerous for the Navy—he does his job but won’t obey blindly. Ryokugyu ignores Akainu too. Man, Akainu’s job sucks lol.
167: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 Even if Im orders Blackbeard or Luffy erased, who goes after them? Doflamingo’s in jail laughing to himself. Admirals are too busy to chase one pirate around.
170: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 What Im wants erased are Uranus, Pluton, and Poseidon. Straw Hat is Uranus. Look at Enel’s cover story murals—Uranus is wearing a straw hat.
241: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 Is Vivi getting erased connected to Pluton?
246: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 What they want erased is the Nefertari family from history. This time they’ll go get Pluton for real.
Ancient Weapons, Poneglyphs, and Alabasta
809: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/20 Vivi’s Nefertari family hid Pluton’s Poneglyph. They already weren’t on the Celestial Dragon side 800 years ago. Cobra knew the Poneglyph’s contents too. He probably knew where Pluton is.
Nefertari Cobra: “The royal family of Alabasta has been bound, generation after generation, to protect this. To us, that’s all it ever was.” “Everything about the ‘weapon’ was supposed to be written there…!!” “……even its location……”
820: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/20 I get that Pluton is dangerous, but if that’s the reason, why not erase Franky immediately? lol And they’ve ignored Robin way too long too lol
831: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/20 >>820 Burning the blueprints was to make Alabasta’s Pluton the only one that matters. If it were memorizable, Iceburg could’ve built it.
Franky: “That is…… don’t tell me……!!!” “The blueprints of the Ancient Weapon, Pluton!!?”
228: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 CP9 failed stealing the blueprints at Water 7, so Pluton stuff was left alone after that. They’d lure Luffy in and kill him too.
The Five Elders: “Eight hundred years ago, the Nefertari family was the only bloodline of the ‘First Twenty’ that chose to remain in the lower world…!!” “—In other words, traitors.” “Have you noticed something…? Let us hope this matter doesn’t become complicated.” “Just like with Big Mom and Kaido… two years after the Summit War… the ‘undercurrent’ can no longer be stopped.”
242: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 >>228 Go reread Doflamingo’s backstory and the Fish-Man Island flashback. Even Celestial Dragons don’t really have any meaning unless they’re under protection. If anything, they just get bullied.
269: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 >>242 Ah, so because their ancestors were treated as exiles, the descendants stopped being Celestial Dragons too? There was that “did you notice?” kind of hint, so it feels like they’re going to play an important role.
282: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 >>269 Not exiled though. They just voluntarily returned to their original country.
320: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 >>282 You’re a bit off too. The Nefertari family never went to Mariejois in the first place when the World Government was founded.
383: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 >>320 They said the twenty kings of the twenty nations gathered at the center of the world to create the World Government. The Ancient Weapons are probably involved.
413: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 They helped create it, but chose not to live there.
“Green Bit” Law vs Doflamingo Admiral Fujitora
Doflamingo: “Long ago… a story from eight hundred years in the past, Law……” “Twenty kings… from twenty nations gathered at the center of the world and created a single, massive organization.” “—That is what is now known as the ‘World Government.’ The kings who were its ‘founders’……”
“Each took their families with them and chose to live in the Holy Land, Mariejois……” “Only the Nefertari family of Alabasta refused—so, to be precise, it was nineteen families.” “—Those descendants who still live there and reign over the world… the heirs of those ‘founders’……” “They are the Celestial Dragons!!”
430: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 >>413 Cobra wants to know the reason behind that. The Five Elders seem like they don’t want it to be investigated. It goes straight to the core of everything.
251: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 >>228 Celestial Dragons are basically just normal humans. They’re just former royalty who went to Mariejois and started calling themselves Celestial Dragons.
293: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 Honestly, the Nefertari family is just incompetent. They stayed in the lower world and got the country they built taken over by pirates.
300: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 293 Stuff like that happens at turning points in history. Crocodile was just extremely thorough.
309: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 Looking back now, Crocodile was planning some pretty insane stuff, lol. If his entire plan had been exposed, the Five Elders probably would’ve erased him immediately.
Crocodile: “I’ve heard that a single shot from ‘Pluton’ can wipe out an entire island without a trace…”
“The world’s worst ‘Ancient Weapon,’ bearing the name of a ‘god’!!”
“It’s supposed to be sleeping somewhere in this country…”
487: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/20 Cobra didn’t even know Robin could read the Poneglyphs, right? When you think about it, that’s pretty weird. The Nefertari family has a Poneglyph that shows the location of an Ancient Weapon, yet their level of caution was way too low. From that fact alone, I get the feeling the government doesn’t even know the Nefertari family possesses that Poneglyph. Maybe the Nefertari family has been guarding the Ancient Weapon for generations to stop the Celestial Dragons from going out of control.
492: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/20 >>487 The fact that the royal family was hiding a Poneglyph in the first place already puts them on the anti–Celestial Dragon side.
611: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/21 **Vivi probably resembles a Nefertari princess that Imu fell in love with long ago. The whole “why didn’t you come with me back then” kind of thing… and now it’s turned into killing intent.
Im, the Future, and the Butterfly Effect
611: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/21 Vivi probably looks like a Nefertari princess Im loved long ago. She didn’t come with him, so now it’s turned into murderous intent.
615: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/21 What happens if Im tries to erase Blackbeard? Does the whole world move against him? That’d be wild.
The Five Elders: “The balance of the world… can never be maintained forever.” “It’s about time we carried out a major purge.”
617: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/21 The fact that the Celestial Dragons’ standard gear looks like space suits makes it feel like the World Government is connected to the moon somehow.
685: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/21 No way Blackbeard gets crushed by the Government. He’s treated as special—right after Luffy.
32: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 So do they erase the “traitor” Nefertari family…? And what exactly was Rocks, the crew that had Big Mom, Kaido, and Mihawk?
80: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 What I realized is the reason Imu was watching the butterfly. It wasn’t because it was a girl or anything like that — I think it was hinting at the butterfly effect.
The butterfly effect refers to the phenomenon where giving a dynamical system even a tiny change can lead to a vastly different outcome later on compared to a scenario without that change.
In other words, it suggests that Imu can see which elements will affect the future. And on top of that, knowing what will influence the future, Imu gives assassination orders to the Five Elders and actively manipulates the course of events.
Therefore, it’s almost certain that Imu is a time-related ability user, capable of things like future sight.
nside Pangaea Castle — the Chamber of Flowers
Imu: “………………”
Five Elders: “—Lord Imu, everyone has assembled.”
Imu: “………………”
82: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 >>80 If Imu can see the future but still can’t stop Luffy or Blackbeard from rising, doesn’t that make Lord Imu kind of weak?
84: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 >>82 That’s probably exactly why people say the actions of those with the “D,” like Luffy and Blackbeard, can never be predicted — they’re called the natural enemies of the gods. And “enemy of the gods” might also mean an enemy of Imu. I think the “D” stands for Destiny. The ones who always move the world enough to alter the future Imu sees are those with the D. Imu wants to maintain the world’s balance, but the D clan are the ones who disrupt it. That’s why Imu was enraged at Luffy and Blackbeard and shredded their photos. Still, Luffy and Blackbeard are low-priority assassination targets, so they haven’t been targeted. Imu probably foresaw that assassinating them now would throw the world’s balance into even greater chaos.
124: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 >>84 The photos Imu had were of Luffy and Teach, both members of the D clan, and also Vivi. If the first two can’t be touched, then isn’t Vivi — who isn’t part of the D clan — the one in the most immediate danger?
126: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 >>124 Aren’t you forgetting Shirahoshi? As for Vivi, Imu didn’t shred her photo or stab it with a sword, so I don’t really feel killing intent there. Whether it’s Shirahoshi or Vivi, even if they’re targeted, I don’t think they’d actually die…
131: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 >>126 I feel the opposite. Maybe the ones whose photos were shredded were actually removed from the list of candidates. By bringing bounties or photos to the national treasure, does it judge something for them?
136: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 >>131 Like you said, unlike the other three, the reason for targeting Vivi is unclear. If they suddenly said “erase Vivi” here, you’d just be like, why? The Five Elders are clearly obstructing Cobra, and targeting someone just because they’re a successor to the throne feels unnatural. For this one, we’ll just have to wait and see how the story develops.
130: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 >>124 Yeah, the reason Imu is targeting Vivi is still unclear. Cobra is basically going to die anyway, so is he being ignored for that reason? Or are they planning to wipe out the entire country of Alabasta?
100: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/19 So in the end, who did Lord Imu order to be erased? Who needs to be removed to preserve the balance of the world?
The Five Elders: “Another ‘light’ that must be erased from history…” “Have you decided?” “If so, then speak that person’s name!!”
👉 Why Japan Reads This as “Erasing History,” Not Just Killing Vivi
Japanese readers frame this less as an assassination plot and more as historical correction. The Nefertari family didn’t just defy the Celestial Dragons—they preserved forbidden history. Erasing Vivi is symbolic: remove the last living anchor to a past the World Government can’t control.
👉 Why “Now” Matters More Than “Who”
The timing matters more than the target. Ancient Weapons, the Reverie, Im’s awakening—everything converged. Japan reads this as the moment when the Government can no longer delay. Not panic—final execution of a long-postponed plan.
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