Whitebeard Pirates / June 2018 — Were They Always a One-Man Team?
The Whitebeard Pirates were once feared as one of the Four Emperors’ crews.
But looking back at Marineford, Japanese fans ask a brutal question:
Was Whitebeard carrying a crew that couldn’t actually fight at the top level?
The Claim: “Whitebeard Was the Only Real Threat”
1: Anonymous Pirate
Marco just regenerates, zero attack power.
Ace just throws fire around.
Jozu just turns hard.
Vista supposedly matched Mihawk, who matched Shanks, but his attacks didn’t work on Akainu, so Mihawk was basically just playing with him.
The rest of the division commanders are mobs.
8: Anonymous Pirate
Feels like they’d even lose to Doflamingo’s crew.
18: Anonymous Pirate
They’ve got fewer Devil Fruit users than Baroque Works.
19: Anonymous Pirate
All of them together still couldn’t stop an already weakened Akainu after Whitebeard softened him up.
That’s honestly indefensible.
And if Ace is a core member, that says everything about their actual level.
27: Anonymous Pirate
Did Whitebeard even have anyone worth over a billion besides himself?
28: Anonymous Pirate
Big Mom’s crew is the same, though.
Only Big Mom herself feels admiral-level.
Commander Power and the “Captain Carry” Problem
45: Anonymous Pirate
>>28
At best, Whitebeard’s crew is like Marine captain level.
30: Anonymous Pirate
Whitebeard himself was weak too.
35: Anonymous Pirate
>>30
No way.
The guy had half his face blown off and was still wrecking people for a while.
49: Anonymous Pirate
>>35
I wanted him to at least knock out one or two admirals to really show how insane he was.
31: Anonymous Pirate
Big Mom’s crew getting beaten by Luffy’s officers, and Whitebeard’s crew struggling against vice admirals — both are honestly pathetic.
32: Anonymous Pirate
It’s actually rare for anyone besides the captain to be insanely strong.
Comparing Yonko Crews
41: Anonymous Pirate
>>32
Mihawk’s pirate crew is all strong.
42: Anonymous Pirate
>>41
“All” (one person).
51: Anonymous Pirate
The Beast Pirates are on a completely different level among the Yonko.
They’ve got guys like Jack, plus two more like him, and Kaido is currently the strongest in the world.
Whitebeard was basically a one-man team and lost because of it.
54: Anonymous Pirate
Aren’t Yonko subordinates supposed to be Warlord-class?
59: Anonymous Pirate
>>54
Is there even a Warlord Marco could beat?
63: Anonymous Pirate
>>59
Buggy.
Admirals, Haki, and the Marineford Reality Check
57: Anonymous Pirate
The three admirals were just way too strong.
So far their power hasn’t really been shaken at all.
Akainu only flinched a little when Shanks showed up.
68: Anonymous Pirate
>>57
Kizaru totally hesitated against Beckman.
60: Anonymous Pirate
Ace apparently couldn’t even use Haki, so how was someone like that allowed to be a division commander?
118: Anonymous Pirate
>>60
He did draw with Jinbe, though.
93: Anonymous Pirate
Cracker was way too busted.
The Marines spending insane money on Pacifistas just looks stupid now.
Who Still “Holds Their Value”?
101: Anonymous Pirate
Who’s actually managed to keep their reputation intact so far?
Mihawk, maybe?
102: Anonymous Pirate
>>101
Akainu.
Mihawk.
There’s nobody who can beat them.
112: Anonymous Pirate
Honestly, isn’t the Blackbeard Pirates ridiculously strong?
Even if half of them were locked up, they’re all monsters.
120: Anonymous Pirate
Marco’s Haki is weak as hell.
123: Anonymous Pirate
>>120
It works on admirals, though.
122: Anonymous Pirate
Are the Beast Pirates actually that strong?
Jack felt more like he was just insanely tough.
126: Anonymous Pirate
>>122
The guy fought nonstop for five days and then picked a fight with a marine admiral.
Yeah, he’s busted.
👉 Why Japanese Fans Judge Them So Harshly
Japanese fans tend to re-evaluate power through outcomes, not titles.
Marineford retroactively reframed the Whitebeard Pirates as a crew that failed its one real test.
No matter how legendary the names sounded, what stuck was that they couldn’t stop Akainu — even together.
👉 What Marineford Quietly Changed About Power Scaling
Marineford didn’t just kill Whitebeard.
It shifted how readers measure strength:
from “who you’re supposed to be” to what you can actually stop when it matters.
In that light, Whitebeard’s crew looks less like an empire — and more like a farewell tour.
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