[One Piece] Is the Revolutionary Army Doomed? Fears That Sabo Will Repeat Ace’s Fate
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Sabo (2018/06/19) — Is the Revolutionary Army Walking Straight Into Tragedy?
The Revolutionary Army has finally made its move. But instead of hope, readers are sensing dread. Is this the moment Sabo — and the revolution itself — begins to collapse?
■ “The Revolutionary Army Is Raising Too Many Death Flags”
16: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/14 The Revolutionary Army is raising way too many defeat flags lol. They’ll probably get wiped by Shanks or something.
Koala “Calm down, Sabo!!!” Ivankov “Oh my! That’s scary—boys~~~~~~!!!” Sabo “How am I supposed to stay calm?!” “Our comrade went through something like that!!!” “That kind-hearted Kuma!!!”
21: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/14 The Revolutionary Army might already be done for. Not even Blackbeard — Shanks wipes them out and it’s “SHANKS!! WHY DID YOU DO THIS?!”
68: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/14 I really don’t think the Revolutionary Army is okay.
151: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/16 The Revolutionary Army feels dangerous now. Reader interest has already shifted to Im. They boldly capture the Celestial Dragons and occupy Mary Geoise — then Im appears and wipes Sabo and all the commanders. I can only see revolution failing.
■ “Kuma’s Tragedy and Bonney’s Role”
42: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/14 So “Tyrant” literally means he used to be a king.
454: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/14 Not sure about their relationship, but maybe Kuma became a cyborg in exchange for Bonney? Bonney’s age-manipulation power feels insanely important. They might’ve wanted to test where Devil Fruit powers reside — body or soul.
162: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/14 Why did Kuma go so far as to protect the Sunny for the Straw Hats? Even Franky wondered why he’d protect Luffy that much.
409: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/14 Declaring war on the Celestial Dragons is a huge deal, so why isn’t the leader, Dragon, taking part himself?
Dragon “Sabo… let’s finalize the plan ahead of time…” “At this upcoming Reverie… it’s finally time.” Sabo “A declaration of war.” “Against the Celestial Dragons…!!!!”
448: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/14 >>409 If an organization loses its No.1 and No.2 at the same time, it’s basically over, so it’s probably just risk management. Toyotomi Hideyoshi only managed to take over the country because Nobunaga and his eldest son died at the same time, after all.
476: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/14 The slavery stuff and what happened to Kuma is just disgusting. I don’t want to see this go any further in a shonen manga. Just punch the Celestial Dragons already.
592: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/15
519: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/14 Seeing what happened to that kind-hearted Kuma… they didn’t have to treat him like that, even compared to what they did to Zoro lol
586: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/15 I wonder why Bonney isn’t cooperating with the Revolutionary Army.
588: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/15 >>586 What reason would Bonney even have to work with the Revolutionary Army?
592: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/15 >>588 Kuma is one of the Revolutionary Army’s officers, so maybe he wouldn’t ask them for help in the first place.
34: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/14 Seeing Kuma like that makes me want the Revolutionary Army’s rescue mission to succeed, but in terms of fighting power, it feels pretty tough. If Luffy and the others get involved, sure—but for characters without protagonist plot armor… yeah.
Jewelry Bonney, Captain of the Bonney Pirates: “(I can’t believe I ran into them right away…!!) (The infiltration worked.) I won’t forgive this…!! Never…!!”
Celestial Dragon: “A top-grade slave that won’t even scream!!!”
Jewelry Bonney: “Absolutely!!!”
34: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/14 Seeing what happened to Kuma makes me want the Revolutionary Army’s rescue operation to succeed, but in terms of sheer fighting power, it feels tough. If Luffy and the others get involved, sure—but for characters who don’t get protagonist plot armor… yeah.
78: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/16 I wonder how Bonney managed to infiltrate the place. She must be a seriously skilled infiltrator.
79: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/16 Maybe the reason the Marines were freaking out after she escaped and kept chasing her is because Kuma—who defected from a member nation—knows some secrets about Mary Geoise and passed them on to Bonney or something? There’s no way Bonney would sneak in without some kind of plan.
569: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/15 Kuma’s depiction is borderline traumatic.
■ “Power Scaling: Are the Commanders Actually Strong?”
90: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/16 If you declare war and the leader doesn’t show up, it feels incomplete. Dragon will probably appear. Sabo could stall Fujitora — that alone proves Dragon must be insane. The commanders might be at least Warlord level.
102: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/16 I don’t buy commanders being on Doflamingo’s level. Sabo is barely Warlord class.
116: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/16 That’s just judging by looks. Ivankov’s dialogue alone puts him on Kuma’s level or higher.
Ivankov “Kuma!! Kuma!! Haa… haa…” “That’s enough, you brute!!! It’s me, you know!!! Have you seriously forgotten my face?!?” “Don’t push it too far, or even I will fight back—there’s a limit!”
Ivankov “Galaxy Wink!!!!” “HEE-HAA!!!”
513: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/16 Stopping a Yonko requires an Admiral or a Warlord. Vice Admirals were getting bodied by Bartolomeo.
528: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/16 >>513 Even Sabo took down a Vice Admiral.You can probably assume that the executive-class members of each faction are roughly Vice Admiral level or higher.Also, doesn’t Big Mom have any children with Kaido or Whitebeard?
790: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/16 Defy the Celestial Dragons → get branded a tyrant and driven out of your country → become a Warlord, only to have your nation held hostage and be turned into a puppet
That’s just too tragic.
■ “If the World Government Collapses… Then What?”
134: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/16 If the Celestial Dragons disappear, more nations might leave the World Government. Out of 170 countries, only about 50 attend meetings anyway.
138: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/16 >>134 If the organization’s structure changes, the number of member nations might actually increase.
147: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/16 >>134 It feels like more countries would want to do things their own way. The World Government’s laws seem pretty strict, after all. Non-member nations are basically treated as fair game—even if the Warlords raid them or their people get enslaved, it’s not considered a problem— so it gives the impression that a lot of countries only joined reluctantly.
159: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/16 >>147 In the end, they’ll probably change the World Government’s charter.It seems like the Revolutionary Army’s goal is to overturn the Celestial Dragons’ system of absolute rule.With the Celestial Dragons removed, the organization itself could actually improve.They might dismantle the World Government and build something new instead,while Luffy ends up bringing order to the seas.
182: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/16 >>159 Luffy has said himself that he has no interest in ruling. He even tried to loot gold in Skypiea, and his allied crews commit crimes like normal pirates, so he’s not really the kind of person who would be on the side of “bringing order.”
161: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/16 >>147 The king of the Land of Flowers even said, “I’ve got plenty I want to say!!” after all.
142: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/16 >>134 And then the countries start clashing over利益 and it turns into an end-of-the-world scenario, huh.
151: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/16 The Revolutionary Army is in real trouble here. Readers’ interest has completely shifted to this character called Im. I can only see a future where they boldly capture the Celestial Dragons and occupy Mary Geoise, only for Im to appear and wipe out Sabo and all the commanders, ending the revolution. Worst case, Dragon gets taken out just as easily and the Revolutionary Army collapses.
693: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/16 I think a fitting ending for One Piece would be all the people Luffy has helped coming together to form a new government.
652: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/14 Sending a huge number of commanders just to rescue a comrade makes Dragon look pretty incompetent. Still better than that one “loser” who personally charged in, though.
662: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/14 >>652 Considering the forces gathered at Mary Geoise, they have to go all out. They’re also factoring in the impact of declaring war at the Reverie, so they can’t afford to screw this up.
674: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/14 >>652 There’s gotta be other objectives too. Like freeing the slaves.
653: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/14 Wouldn’t it be simplest if Dragon started the revolution because Luffy’s mother was killed? Even if she showed up this late, Luffy probably wouldn’t be shaken at all.
710: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/14 Kuma doesn’t seem tyrannical at all, though. Was he a tyrant in the past who later had a change of heart, or did the World Government smear him with a bad image after he opposed them?
720: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/14 >>710 Apparently he got the “tyrant” nickname because of brutal acts back when he was a pirate.
569: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/15 Kuma’s portrayal is borderline traumatic.
0 comments / 0 posts Seeing such a cool, insanely strong Warlord turned into a slave of the Celestial Dragons is just brutal…
585: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/15 I really want the Celestial Dragons to collapse in this Revolutionary Army storyline. But what if it fails and Sabo and Dragon end up enslaved by the Celestial Dragons? I seriously don’t want to see that. All Celestial Dragons (except the Donquixote line) should be executed.
588: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/15 I can only imagine a future where the Revolutionary Army loses and gets enslaved along with Kuma lol. There aren’t many reasons for Luffy to challenge the World Government— basically Vivi or some princess-related issue, or the Revolutionary Army.
641: Anonymous Pirate. 2018/06/15 I don’t think taking down the Celestial Dragons will be done by the Revolutionary Army. They’ll just create the trigger. In Norse mythology, the ones who destroy the gods’ kingdom are the giants—Loki, specifically. The prince of Elbaf is also named Loki, so it feels like the fight against the Celestial Dragons is still a long way off.
👉 Why Japanese Readers Expect Tragedy, Not Victory
Japanese readers aren’t rooting for a clean revolution. They’re reading the flags: Ace, Marineford, Kuma’s slavery, and now Sabo. The tone isn’t “liberation” — it’s “this is going to hurt.”
👉 The Revolution May Only Be a Trigger, Not the Endgame
Many comments frame the Revolutionary Army as a catalyst, not the solution. The real resolution may come later — through Luffy, allies, and a restructured world. Victory here might actually cheapen the pain One Piece has been building.
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