Sir Crocodile — May, 2018
Was Crocodile Always Weak, or Did the Story Leave Him Behind?
Crocodile was once one of the Seven Warlords.
So why do Japanese fans keep clowning him as “overrated” and “weak”?
This thread isn’t about power scaling hype — it’s about disbelief.
- Crocodile’s Defeat and the “30 Million Rookie” Problem
- Haki, Logia Reliance, and Overconfidence
- Comparisons to Other Characters
- Wins Against Luffy — Do They Even Matter?
- Narrative Inconsistencies and Character Dissonance
- Side Talk and World Context
- 👉 Why Japanese Fans Think This Way
- 👉 Why This Debate Isn’t About Crocodile — It’s About Early ONE PIECE Logic Aging Poorly
Crocodile’s Defeat and the “30 Million Rookie” Problem
2: Anonymous Pirate
He’d probably get beaten up even by Kalifa.
4: Anonymous Pirate
Locking him up around Level 4 would be about right.
5: Anonymous Pirate
And yet he was super active in the war arc.
6: Anonymous Pirate
Positive point: he didn’t even flinch in a boiling hot bath lol.
7: Anonymous Pirate
He was holding back for him, you know.
Haki, Logia Reliance, and Overconfidence
9: Anonymous Pirate
He’s probably awakened his Devil Fruit.
11: Anonymous Pirate
>>9
If he were awakened, he wouldn’t need to touch things to turn them into sand. He could sandify everything around him.
13: Anonymous Pirate
He should be able to drain moisture without even touching things.
15: Anonymous Pirate
If someone coats themselves in Haki, he probably can’t drain moisture anymore.
17: Anonymous Pirate
But Croco-boy has poison at least.
18: Anonymous Pirate
Crocodile being overrated is insane. He’s just straight-up weak.
Comparisons to Other Characters
23: Anonymous Pirate
At the point where he can’t use Haki, he probably can’t beat Smoker either. Even back then Smoker had a jitte, was faster than Gear 2 Luffy, and all that.
28: Anonymous Pirate
>>23
Even though Smoker was a HQ captain, he couldn’t use Haki either back then.
25: Anonymous Pirate
Someone said Logia users rely on their powers too much, so Haki is basically trash to them.
Wins Against Luffy — Do They Even Matter?
30: Anonymous Pirate
Still, isn’t Crocodile the only enemy who actually beat Luffy more times than he lost?
36: Anonymous Pirate
>>30
What’s the point of beating that insanely weak Luffy back then?
31: Anonymous Pirate
Getting taken down by a 30 million trash rookie and still surviving into the New World lol.
Narrative Inconsistencies and Character Dissonance
34: Anonymous Pirate
“Protect what you want to protect!” still feels off no matter how many times I see it. Crocodile would never say that.
35: Anonymous Pirate
They could retcon it so that he lost the ability to use Haki as the price for changing sexes.
43: Anonymous Pirate
If Crocodile were the protagonist, he’d be stuck at Fishman Island.
52: Anonymous Pirate
>>43
He’d get stuck at Arlong Park.
46: Anonymous Pirate
If a Water-Water Fruit user shows up, he’s done.
48: Anonymous Pirate
The lifespan of Logia users who mistake themselves for invincible is short.
Side Talk and World Context
11: Anonymous Pirate
What’s that secret Ivankov knows anyway?
22: Anonymous Pirate
>>12
Crocodile was actually a woman.
55: Anonymous Pirate
Dragon showed up in Jump this week, but thinking Blackbeard happily wiped out their base only to still be playing into the Revolutionary Army’s hands is hilarious.
66: Anonymous Pirate
Even without Haki, you can still become a Yonko commander.
69: Anonymous Pirate
Currency value was different back then, so it’s fine.
44: Anonymous Pirate
Having such a blessed ability like “causing drought” and still ending up like this… there’s no saving him.
👉 Why Japanese Fans Think This Way
Japanese fans aren’t just comparing Crocodile to current power levels.
They’re reacting to how fragile his dominance looks once Logia invincibility disappears.
To them, Crocodile represents an era where ability reliance masked fundamental weakness — and that illusion collapsing feels deserved.
👉 Why This Debate Isn’t About Crocodile — It’s About Early ONE PIECE Logic Aging Poorly
This thread isn’t really about Crocodile alone.
It’s about early ONE PIECE power logic aging poorly in hindsight.
Crocodile’s loss to a 30 million rookie isn’t forgiven because Japanese fans read consistency first — not nostalgia.
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