Coby — May 5, 2018
Is this really “future sight,” or just another sign the Marines are changing?
Coby’s brief appearance sparked a disproportionate reaction.
Was that speed, awareness, and control actually future sight?
Or are fans reading too much into a Marine who’s clearly grown past expectations?
- First reactions: disbelief at Coby’s strength
- Comparisons to Smoker
- Other details that caught attention
- Marine ranks and abnormal promotion speed
- Talent speculation
- Bigger picture distractions
- Garp’s role as a mentor
- Reverie and world-building expectations
- Sanji and future setups
- Bounty inflation arguments
- Looking ahead to Wano
- Yonko reactions and framing
- Rocky Port and Marine evolution
- 👉 Why fans hesitate to call this “future sight”
- 👉 Coby as a symbol, not just a power scale issue
First reactions: disbelief at Coby’s strength
3: Anonymous Pirate
Coby is way too strong lol.
5: Anonymous Pirate
What about Morgan?
17: Anonymous Pirate
>>5
The dad is already fodder.
The son Helmeppo is a lieutenant commander.

Comparisons to Smoker
6: Anonymous Pirate
Is he on the same level as the cigarette guy (Smoker)?
10: Anonymous Pirate
>>6
We didn’t see Smoker directly, but he’s probably way above that now.
Other details that caught attention
7: Anonymous Pirate
Sanji’s bounty poster now says “Dead or Alive.”
9: Anonymous Pirate
Coby was swimming insanely fast underwater.
Marine ranks and abnormal promotion speed
19: Anonymous Pirate
Smoker debuted as a colonel and should be a vice admiral now.
Still, Coby’s promotion speed and strength are crazy.
Two years ago he was doing chores for a female pirate.
26: Anonymous Pirate
Colonel → Rear Admiral → Vice Admiral → Admiral → Fleet Admiral.
Talent speculation
32: Anonymous Pirate
Coby looks smart, and honestly his combat talent might even exceed Luffy’s.
33: Anonymous Pirate
Does he really have strength comparable to Smoker back then?
And that Coby can swim means he’s not a Devil Fruit user.
Bigger picture distractions
42: Anonymous Pirate
Zeus quietly joined the crew too.

43: Anonymous Pirate
Kaido being angry caught my attention.
That’s dangerous — Zoro might actually die.
Garp’s role as a mentor
44: Anonymous Pirate
For Garp’s training ability to matter, Coby and Helmeppo have to keep ranking up.
Reverie and world-building expectations
52: Anonymous Pirate
Green Bull might show up during the Reverie arc.
I think the Five Elders and World Government upper brass will appear too.
Lucci and Kaku from CP-0 as well.
Sanji and future setups
56: Anonymous Pirate
Since the raid suit wasn’t thrown away, Sanji will definitely use it in battle someday.
Bounty inflation arguments
58: Anonymous Pirate
1.5 billion feels like too much.
59: Anonymous Pirate
I don’t think he’s 1.5 times stronger than Katakuri.
72: Anonymous Pirate
>>59
Bounties aren’t just raw strength — they’re about how big a threat you are to the Marines.
60: Anonymous Pirate
If you say that, then what about Usopp?
61: Anonymous Pirate
He beat 800 million and 1 billion enemies back to back.
He also had the Vinsmoke family as subordinates.
And it got exposed that he has 5,000 men under him.
Looking ahead to Wano
63: Anonymous Pirate
Zoro will probably take down Jack.
65: Anonymous Pirate
The Luffy Pirates are getting way too big.
Happo Navy,
Giant Warrior Pirates,
Orlumbus’s massive fleet,
That barrier-wielding guy who worships Luffy,
Plus Jinbe’s Fish-Man Pirates,
Germa 66 —
It’s too much.
68: Anonymous Pirate
Germa 66’s position is kinda awkward though.
And can these guys even attend the Reverie?
Yonko reactions and framing
70: Anonymous Pirate
Blackbeard: “Zehahaha. Emperor? It’s too early for him.”
92: Anonymous Pirate
This is basically an introduction as “the closest to the Yonko.”
That’s the Fifth Emperor.
Rocky Port and Marine evolution
111: Anonymous Pirate
So Coby was a hero who saved civilians in the Rocky Port Incident.
That explains the rapid promotion.
Law was the mastermind behind Rocky Port, right?
We still don’t even know what the incident actually was.
113: Anonymous Pirate
Current Coby probably mastered Rokushiki completely.
Smoker couldn’t even use Haki back when he was a colonel.
Maybe the Marines really are entering a new era.
👉 Why fans hesitate to call this “future sight”
Most comments aren’t actually fixated on Katakuri.
They’re reacting to speed, perception, and growth — not explicit confirmation.
“Future sight” becomes shorthand for discomfort with how fast Coby is advancing.
👉 Coby as a symbol, not just a power scale issue
This thread treats Coby less as a rival and more as proof that the Marines are evolving.
Between Garp’s mentorship, Rocky Port, and shifting power structures,
fans seem more interested in what Coby represents than what his Haki is called.
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